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Title: Anymore Golden Oldies?
Post by: Sang on August 09, 2009, 08:59:15 PM
Being a bit bored and I want a "new" game to play so I'm wondering if there are still any classic games (preferably FPS) that I haven't played yet.
I'm not talking Doom old but things like Half-Life, Unreal, Deus Ex, the NOLF series, AVP2, Operation Flashpoint, Max Payne series,...

Anyone have any suggestions? Thief crossed my mind, but I played that one a few years back and it seemed sorta dull, though I did only play the first mission so maybe I should give it another chance.


Title: Re: Anyone know anymore golden oldies?
Post by: Geoffrey on August 09, 2009, 09:17:13 PM
Quake 2, soldier of fortune, unreal 2, sin episodes, prey, daikatana, return to castle wolfenstein, red faction 2, red faction, far cry, serious sam 2, chaser, kingpin, delta force 2, fear. Just going through my games collection and writing every fps down I liked (for whatever reason - chaser sucked but was nice in a way).


Title: Re: Anyone know anymore golden oldies?
Post by: Sang on August 09, 2009, 09:40:45 PM
Quake 2, unreal 2, return to castle wolfenstein, far cry, serious sam 2, kingpin, fear.

These ones I have played (though I'm not really looking for titles like FEAR, Far Cry or Serious Sam 2 - I'm looking for games that have that.. old-ish look about them, you know? yeah)

Kingpin was pretty shitty too IMO..

daikatana, red faction 2, chaser

I heard these ones a pretty poor from many people, so not sure if I'll check them out.

soldier of fortune, sin episodes, prey, red faction, delta force 2

These are interesting suggestions.. I don't think Prey is gonna look its best on my current PC though so I'll hold off of playing it for a while. But SOF1 and 2 I'll certainly check out sometime, same with Red Faction. Gonna see if I can get Sin Episodes somewhere..


Title: Re: Anyone know anymore golden oldies?
Post by: Gambini on August 09, 2009, 10:05:04 PM
What about Half life Opposing force or Blue Shirt?

Hitman 1 (is not a FPS though)

Blood 2 the choosen (a bad game but can bring you some minutes of fun).

if nothing above works, try Gunman


Title: Re: Anyone know anymore golden oldies?
Post by: Geoffrey on August 09, 2009, 10:20:24 PM
Chaser ís bad, but in a semi-interesting way. Red Faction 2 is pretty fun - it has its flaws but the theme is pretty solid and it's an interesting play-through.


Title: Re: Anyone know anymore golden oldies?
Post by: James on August 09, 2009, 10:38:39 PM
Yeah; Chaser has a big weapon selection, but it's not really good - I'd say it's worth a play if you have nothing better to play.


Title: Re: Anyone know anymore golden oldies?
Post by: HighWire on August 09, 2009, 10:42:38 PM
Fernito mentioned Gunman Chronicles. That is indeed not such a bad idea at all.

The only real complaint I had about that game was the robot planet being too much of a drag. It's a pretty decent game.


Title: Re: Anyone know anymore golden oldies?
Post by: Sang on August 09, 2009, 10:52:10 PM
What about Half life Opposing force or Blue Shift?

Played them years ago, they're awesome :D

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Hitman 1 (is not a FPS though)

Played it but didn't like it. Hitman 2 was a little bit better but very unforgiving, I played through that game shooting everyone because being stealthy didn't seem to work most of the time, people would see right through disguises. Hitman 3 (Contracts) is where it's at, very good game, but short too with only like 10 missions or something.
I've yet to play Blood Money.

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Blood 2 the choosen (a bad game but can bring you some minutes of fun).

Tried playing it once (many many summers ago) but it didn't work properly, not sure what the problem was anymore. Might have been video or audio-related. May have to try again.

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if nothing above works, try Gunman

Been meaning to play that one for a long time but never gotten around to it, if I can remember I'll give it a go :)

Thanks for the suggestions, keep 'em coming!

I'll be sure to check out:
- Soldier of Fortune 1/2
- Red Faction
- Gunman Chronicles
- Sin Episodes
- Will retry Blood 2 and maybe Thief

Still not really sold on Chaser and Red Faction 2. RF2 sounds more interesting than Chaser though.


Title: Re: Anyone know anymore golden oldies?
Post by: Gambini on August 09, 2009, 10:55:47 PM



if nothing above works, try Gunman

Fernito mentioned Gunman Chronicles.

mmmh


Title: Re: Anyone know anymore golden oldies?
Post by: Sang on August 09, 2009, 11:05:56 PM
i gues highwire thinks all latino guys are the same lol kinda liek how all asi


Title: Re: Anyone know anymore golden oldies?
Post by: HighWire on August 09, 2009, 11:51:12 PM
Sorry, bad mixup! I still had Fernito on my mind from the other thread. Forgive me. :)


Title: Re: Anyone know anymore golden oldies?
Post by: DavoX on August 10, 2009, 02:36:43 AM
Try XIII , It's a breath of fresh air with it's own style of graphics.


Title: Re: Anyone know anymore golden oldies?
Post by: Rusty Nails on August 10, 2009, 02:39:07 AM
...and obnoxious gameplay.


Title: Re: Anyone know anymore golden oldies?
Post by: Sang on August 10, 2009, 04:10:02 AM
XIII? From what I've seen and read.. it doesn't really interest me that much. Maybe I'll play it out of hardcore patriottism because it's based on a Belgian comic. Same reason I played Outcast (made by Belgian developers).. but didn't really like that one much :(


Title: Re: Anyone know anymore golden oldies?
Post by: Rusty Nails on August 10, 2009, 04:32:33 AM
How the fuck can you NOT like Outcast?!


Title: Re: Anyone know anymore golden oldies?
Post by: Sang on August 10, 2009, 04:51:42 AM
I don't know, perhaps I don't like my fellow countrymen as much as I had thought. If it had been an American game then sure!


Title: Re: Anyone know anymore golden oldies?
Post by: Rusty Nails on August 10, 2009, 05:10:14 AM
That doesn't make much sense!


Title: Re: Anyone know anymore golden oldies?
Post by: Sang on August 10, 2009, 05:12:58 AM
Well, God (or in this case: I) moves in mysterious ways!


Title: Re: Anyone know anymore golden oldies?
Post by: Forge on August 10, 2009, 08:55:44 AM
American McGee's Alice or FAKK 2, but the way the camera pans around in those games they can get annoying.


Title: Re: Anyone know anymore golden oldies?
Post by: Cody on August 10, 2009, 12:54:06 PM
Not really a FPS, but a very good old game non the less if you can find it. "Blood Omen: Legacy Of Kain"
Has a very good story line and some of the best voice scripting Ive herd in a game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_11r1yE3FI&fmt=18#t=3m43s



Title: Re: Anyone know anymore golden oldies?
Post by: Geoffrey on August 10, 2009, 04:01:53 PM
American McGee's Alice or FAKK 2, but the way the camera pans around in those games they can get annoying.


FAKK2! Definitely. Too bad there aren't as many sexual puns as there could've been but still an awesome game :)


Title: Re: Anyone know anymore golden oldies?
Post by: Rusty Nails on August 10, 2009, 04:45:01 PM
Currently downloading Outcast. I remember one time after we (brother and I) bought in 1999, a friend of mine accidentally broke the CD. My bro was pissed at me, but he e-mailed the developers and they kindly sent a new one free of charge.

Haven't the slightest clue where that CD has gone now though.
Check out the official website gallery (http://www.outcast-thegame.com/gallery/index.htm) for the game. It's great, especially the behind the scenes videos and such!


Title: Re: Anymore Golden Oldies?
Post by: Franpa on August 10, 2009, 08:02:36 PM
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Blood 2 the choosen (a bad game but can bring you some minutes of fun).
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Tried playing it once (many many summers ago) but it didn't work properly, not sure what the problem was anymore. Might have been video or audio-related. May have to try again.
If you value your soul Sang, don't.


Title: Re: Anymore Golden Oldies?
Post by: Sang on August 10, 2009, 10:43:41 PM
Star Trek: Voyager - Elite Force

Looks sorta interesting, I thought "Star Trek isn't really my thing" but you said you don't have to be a Trekkie. So maybe I'll check that out.

American McGee's Alice or FAKK 2

I've known about these two games for a long time but sadly they never interested me. They look pretty mediocre, really.

Not really a FPS, but a very good old game non the less if you can find it. "Blood Omen: Legacy Of Kain"
Has a very good story line and some of the best voice scripting Ive herd in a game.

Gameplay itself looks pretty unique but in the vid you linked to the main character (Kain, I guess) was talking almost all the time which would put me off of it a bit, I think. I suppose he was just talking a lot because it were the first levels and many things needed to be explained to the player but I think having a box pop up with a hint that the player can read is the best way to do it. yeah yeah "breaks my immersion" whatever, at least you can then try to understand it at your own pace, I had no idea what the guy was talking about when explaining the purpose of some power-ups.

Also I'm willing to give Outcast another chance. Still have the original big-ass box of the game we bought 10 years ago. Never managed to play it on my first PC though, it did work on another one I had but didn't find it very interesting then (perhaps because I wasn't in the mood for exploring and stuff then)



Title: Re: Anyone know anymore golden oldies?
Post by: MSandt on August 11, 2009, 01:45:13 AM
If you guys played online shooters you'd never have the problem of not having anything to play.

- Sin Episodes

This is an excellent game, though short. I'd make it my priority to get it.


Title: Re: Anyone know anymore golden oldies?
Post by: Telee on August 11, 2009, 05:12:25 AM
If you guys played online shooters you'd never have the problem of not having anything to play.

This. I'm sure Sang would be able to run Battlefield 2, maybe 2142.


Title: Re: Anymore Golden Oldies?
Post by: Sang on August 11, 2009, 05:15:20 AM
Maybe I don't always feel like playing with other people, being the bitter depraved sociopath that I am. Battlefield 2 does look like fun though and I will hopefully get to try it before the game dies.


Title: Re: Anymore Golden Oldies?
Post by: MSandt on August 11, 2009, 06:14:40 AM
You can go lone wolf if you want, so you'd spend most of your time killing people, not helping them or working with them. You're not restricted by teamwork, but you're free to utilize its benefits.

Anyways, games like BF2, BF2142 and ETQW provide a sense of freedom: you can do all kinds of stuff. TF2, which you're familiar with, is more confined in what you can do though it provides alternatives too compared to, say, CS.

BF2 isn't dying any time soon, btw. XFire ranks it as one of their most played games.


Title: Re: Anymore Golden Oldies?
Post by: Sang on August 11, 2009, 11:03:44 PM
Well yeah but playing lone wolf in a multiplayer game seems contradictory. Then you might as well play an SP game where being a lone wolf is the game's focus - this means that the lone wolf-part of it all will be much better polished than in an MP game where there are many different options.

Of course, a good MP game would make sure that every playing style (= tactics that go beyond "choice of weapon" and classes) is interesting but I found only TF2 has managed this, out of the MP games I've played.

TF2 is an example of what I mean comparing lone wolf MP to lone wolf SP. Yes, it is certainly more confined than the other games you mentioned but as a consequence, in Yahtzee's (Zero Punctuation) words, TF2 is "polished to a mirror shine". Less content, but much better quality of the existing content. The other games might be bigger, but may or may not have the potential to be really lame in various areas.


Title: Re: Anymore Golden Oldies?
Post by: Trooper Dan on August 12, 2009, 02:40:45 AM
Well yeah but playing lone wolf in a multiplayer game seems contradictory. Then you might as well play an SP game where being a lone wolf is the game's focus - this means that the lone wolf-part of it all will be much better polished than in an MP game where there are many different options.

But killing other players is a lot more fun than killing bots.


Title: Re: Anymore Golden Oldies?
Post by: Sang on August 12, 2009, 03:04:33 AM
Depends. In a military shooter I kinda prefer "realistic" movements, meaning enemies taking cover and such. Having guys bunnyhopping and grenade spamming all over the spot would be more dull to me than shooting a bot with good AI that doesn't do stupid shit like that. The kills might be easier, but a lot less ridiculous and immersion-breaking.

Of course this is not true for a game like Unreal Tournament.


Title: Re: Anymore Golden Oldies?
Post by: Trooper Dan on August 12, 2009, 03:53:08 AM
Depends. In a military shooter I kinda prefer "realistic" movements, meaning enemies taking cover and such. Having guys bunnyhopping and grenade spamming all over the spot would be more dull to me than shooting a bot with good AI that doesn't do stupid shit like that. The kills might be easier, but a lot less ridiculous and immersion-breaking.

It's too bad they allow stuff like that.  Games that attempt realism should have realistic jump height and recovery time, realistic grenade reload times and available ammo, etc.  Then it wouldn't be an issue.


Title: Re: Anymore Golden Oldies?
Post by: Sang on August 12, 2009, 04:10:00 AM
Yes, but then odds are almost nobody would play them.


Title: Re: Anymore Golden Oldies?
Post by: MSandt on August 12, 2009, 09:52:30 AM
Well yeah but playing lone wolf in a multiplayer game seems contradictory. Then you might as well play an SP game where being a lone wolf is the game's focus - this means that the lone wolf-part of it all will be much better polished than in an MP game where there are many different options.

You're comparing apples and oranges: you cannot compare multiplayer lone-wolf to single-player gaming. And no, playing as a lone wolf in, say, BF2 is not contradictory. Also, playing as a lone wolf doesn't mean that you avoid having any contact with your teammates. You just don't want to get involved in squad-based tactics.

Even games that emphasise teamwork much more, such as ETQW, have a place for selfish players. Since you get points by accomplishing missions (which helps your team to win), you can simply take it as a competition against your fellow teammates because you want your name to flash on the screen saying "Sang has destroyed the Bunker Door".

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Having guys bunnyhopping and grenade spamming all over the spot would be more dull to me than shooting a bot with good AI that doesn't do stupid shit like that. The kills might be easier, but a lot less ridiculous and immersion-breaking.

Eh, the very fact that you're trying to fight intelligent human beings provides much more immersion than killing AI opponents who behave in a totally predictable way every time you meet them. This is why you replay from scratch a good single-player game maybe only once a year or once every two years or something but when you've got a good multiplayer FPS you log in every day because every session is different.

The downside is of course that years after its release, a multiplayer FPS becomes useless because servers start to disappear. However, usually by that time you've already extracted way more hours out of such a game than you ever would from a single-player game.

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It's too bad they allow stuff like that.  Games that attempt realism should have realistic jump height and recovery time, realistic grenade reload times and available ammo, etc.  Then it wouldn't be an issue.

It's not too bad and they should not because these games are meant to be only semi-realistic. Making them more realistic would only spoil the fun.

So far I haven't come across a single FPS that's realistic. For example, even Operation Flashpoint is pretty damn far from realism because of its character movements. If moving was that difficult, there'd be no use for infantry.


Title: Re: Anymore Golden Oldies?
Post by: Forge on August 13, 2009, 04:07:35 AM
Had a friend who used to play Tribes and Tribes2 online all the time. There was another FPS type game that had something to do with dinosaurs. I think it was Turok or something like that.


Title: Re: Anymore Golden Oldies?
Post by: Sang on August 14, 2009, 12:49:44 AM
Well, installing Outcast! How handy to keep games in your clouset for 10 years. Only touched it like two times :D

edit: So far so good. Can't get music to work properly but that's ok. Wondering if there's a way to put mouse sensitivity up even higher.. I know it's not supposed to be a shooter but right now I have to roll the mouse around really hard like 3 times just to do a 90° turn which is a bit ridiculous - and the sensitivity is all the way up.

Also holy shit a lot of conversations going on, hopefully they won't bore me. So far it's cool though, almost like a deeper version of Unreal (stranded on alien planet, help silly aliens against their evil rulers..)


Title: Re: Anymore Golden Oldies?
Post by: Sang on August 15, 2009, 05:46:29 AM
About Outcast - I find it infuriating that Slade walks so slowly in that green/blue mud. Very annoying especially because you HAVE to walk through it to get to some spots, is there a way to fix that or is it an actual feature?


Title: Re: Anymore Golden Oldies?
Post by: Geoffrey on August 16, 2009, 12:03:40 AM
Don't forget to give the random map generator (as in: random map, same buildings) a spin, too :)


Title: Re: Anymore Golden Oldies?
Post by: Sang on August 16, 2009, 12:10:35 AM
About Outcast - I find it infuriating that Slade walks so slowly in that green/blue mud. Very annoying especially because you HAVE to walk through it to get to some spots, is there a way to fix that or is it an actual feature?

CPU Killer program fixed it, I use version 2.05. Have to limit my CPU speed to 1496 MHz and set the affinity on CPUKiller and Outcast to use only one CPU... and bam shazam!


Title: FPS Game Only
Post by: PencilPusher93 on December 28, 2009, 09:29:50 PM
Hey,

I'm going to go on a spending spree sometime and buy a load of FPS games. I have a lot of old and new fps games. I would just like people to recommend some great FPS games of late nineties - early naughties.

Thanks.


Title: Re: FPS Game Only
Post by: Sang on December 28, 2009, 10:36:55 PM
Must plays: System Shock 2, Deus Ex, Thief series, Unreal, Half-Life, No One Lives Forever series,...


Title: Re: FPS Game Only
Post by: Telee on December 28, 2009, 10:58:08 PM
lol naughties

Do you mean PC games only? If so:

- Call of Duty 1 and 2
- Medal of Honor Allied Assault
- Battlefield 1942 (if you're into MP)


Title: Re: FPS Game Only
Post by: MSandt on December 29, 2009, 11:46:09 PM
Play CoD 2 and CoD 4, then give MoH a try and you'll see how great it is compared to all the rest.