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Re: CRYSIS
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2007, 04:45:06 AM »
Another thing - Demos are too big these days :(
Isn't that just.. the natural way things are moving through the gaming industry these days?
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Re: CRYSIS
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2007, 04:51:03 AM »
Well I think Davox does have a point-ish thing. Judging from the gameplay videos.. let's face it, the gameplay doesn't seem like much more than Far Cry with some superhuman things added to it and some other gimmicks. Of course I haven't seen all of it yet so I could be wrong, but so far..

I'm not saying Far Cry is a bad game, of course not, but I think in this particular case the game's main point of attraction are the graphics. And if you have a shitrig that can only play the game at 640x480 with everything on low and all effects disabled, then why bother to play it at all?

People that played the demo said that it's nothing like Far Cry, at all, at least gameplay-wise. It has it's strong points besides the graphics.
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Re: CRYSIS
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2007, 06:43:45 AM »
Liked the demo a ton more than I ever liked Far Cry. It's really fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT8b3Yj3UDw
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Re: CRYSIS
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2007, 02:06:17 PM »
Another thing - Demos are too big these days :(
I agree. I used the EA website to download it, high speed and it was done in 2 - 3 hours.

Update:
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Re: CRYSIS
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2007, 07:34:17 PM »
Well I think Davox does have a point-ish thing. Judging from the gameplay videos.. let's face it, the gameplay doesn't seem like much more than Far Cry with some superhuman things added to it and some other gimmicks. Of course I haven't seen all of it yet so I could be wrong, but so far..

Fakir can have relevant opinions concerning gameplay aspects. DavoX's point is crap.
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Re: CRYSIS
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2007, 09:36:40 PM »
People that played the demo said that it's nothing like Far Cry, at all, at least gameplay-wise. It has it's strong points besides the graphics.

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Liked the demo a ton more than I ever liked Far Cry

Oh - then I guess I was mistaken (that the gameplay IS an improvement) however in that case what you said didn't really make any sense at all :/

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Isn't that just.. the natural way things are moving through the gaming industry these days?

Well obviously - I think there should be 2 editions of every demo. One edition would be for people to check out the gameplay, see if they like the game mechanics. The graphics wouldn't be as impressive but the filesize would be down by much. Then there would be the bigger demo - that would be the actual graphics of the final game. With the "bigger edition" people could check to see if their PC can run it.

It probably sounds crazy but I think it could work.
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Re: CRYSIS
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2007, 02:03:21 AM »
Well I think Davox does have a point-ish thing. Judging from the gameplay videos.. let's face it, the gameplay doesn't seem like much more than Far Cry with some superhuman things added to it and some other gimmicks. Of course I haven't seen all of it yet so I could be wrong, but so far..

Fakir can have relevant opinions concerning gameplay aspects. DavoX's point is crap.

It's not fair to give a bad opinion about a game when it has to be played "Fully" as it was meant to be. Crytech didn't have in mind the low end consumers, they only cared about the full product just like any other company should.

Although Gameplay and graphics have nothing to do with eachother, it can still blur the player's vision and change his opinion even if the gameplay is great. I keep standing on my opinion tho, play games as they are meant to be played.
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« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2007, 02:08:18 AM »
they only cared about the full product just like any other company should.

Wether or not Crytek didn't care for the low end consumers at all is something I won't be talking about, but let's talk about the word "should". If you've taken a look at the Steam Hardware Surveys (and I just had one so trust me) you'll notice that there is quite a portion of customers who use hardware that could be considered mid-end, low-end or even worthless at this point. (really, there were people with the same graphics card as myself, and these days it's probably worth 5)

Surely there are people that have top-end hardware, but by ignoring the low-end people you are effectively limiting your sales by a lot. And then it's simple economics - The less you sell, the less money you make - However by still keeping in mind the low-end people, you will (if you have a good game) sell more and you will make more money - w00t!
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Re: CRYSIS
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2007, 02:12:22 AM »
Following Davox's logic you could release a usermap that lags so much that it'll make everybody's system crash, and then refuse to fix the problem because it's your own responsibility to "play the map as it's meant to be played" and you can't criticize it properly before you do.

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Re: CRYSIS
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2007, 02:18:12 AM »
My player torturing methods have nothing to do with this thread  :wacko:

Sang, don't worry, Crytek ARE caring about mid-end consumers and the like, hell you can't play with "Very high settings" with any hardware available on the market, yet. (no, it doesn't count if the Shaders aren't on very high settings)
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« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2007, 02:26:47 AM »
I'm not worried at all, you said Crytek doesn't care about the low-end consumers and that every company should do that - which is a poor marketing decision. Of course I understand that with a technology as ambitious as in this game, it's not possible or very hard to support 5-year-old hardware. But if it can be done efficiently, there's no reason not to do it.
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Re: CRYSIS
« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2007, 02:29:49 AM »
Why are we talking about this, low-end machines CAN play crysis, but it looks like shit, which is not fair to give out an opinion about the game.
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Re: CRYSIS
« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2007, 04:10:22 PM »
Good photography looks good no matter how you print it. Good movies are equally good if you watch them widescreen, in the theater or on your small, square bedroom tv.

Crysis is made for high-end computers, and it's from the same guys that made a game that initially started as a techdemo. So yes, the graphics are important - but we've all seen the screenshots already: we all know the game looks great. Now it's time to see if the gameplay shares this quality, and you don't need a high-end machine for that.

Long story short: zip it
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Re: CRYSIS
« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2007, 05:45:59 PM »
Why are we talking about this, low-end machines CAN play crysis, but it looks like shit, which is not fair to give out an opinion about the game.

Well hey, as long as it's playable for people, they should play it. Like Geoffrey said, if it has good gameplay it doesn't matter how it looks (well, of course there are boundaries ;) But judging from fanmade screenshots it doesn't look all that shitty on low-end hardware)
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« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2007, 02:45:54 PM »
The compatibility of crysis is awesome; I can't even run farcry on the highest settings yet crysis remains playable :) And it looks like how I'd play farcry, too. The loading/startup time is really, really extreme for me though; it can take 10 minutes to load a level properly.

Anyway so it works, when I've got the time I'm going to run around in this little thingy.

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